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Still a Glitch with the Y Combinator Angel Funding Legal Documents


I mentioned last week that Y Combinator was open sourcing their angel funding legal documents. I also noted that soon after the documents were made public, people (myself included) received this error message visiting the documents’ URL:

Sorry, there’s a glitch with the documents and we had to take them down. We hope to have something back soon.

Well 6 days later the same error message appears if you visit the link. This leads me to believe that WSGR really did have an issue with the release of the documents. I do understand why WSGR would have an issue with the release, but I hope WSGR and Y Combinator can work it out.

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Y Combinator Open Sources Funding Documents…Venture Lawyers Leave Office Early


Well I guess that’s it folks. I had a fun ride. Y Combinator has “open sourced” legal documents they provide to their startups seeking funding. The documents were created by Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati, Y Combinator’s law firm.

But as of 7:39PST on August 13, there is a “glitch” with the link to the open source documents. Here is the current message you get if you click the link to the documents:

Sorry, there’s a glitch with the documents and we had to take them down. We hope to have something back soon.

I’m wonder if by “glitch with the documents” they really mean that Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati is not exactly happy with this particular open source movement.

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How Much to Pay Your Startup Lawyer

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How Much to Pay Your Startup Lawyer


Think back to the last time you wrote a business plan for a startup. Do you recall your estimated expense for legal fees? $1,000? $10,000? $0?

How much to spend on legal fees is a common issue for startup companies with more than one correct answer. However, there are a few factors that suggest your startup should loosen up the purse strings.

Back in my college days (post-Prodigy, pre-Google), I wrote a business plan for a Web 0.01 startup company and allocated a meager $500. I had no idea what I’d be getting for that $500, but I figured my business plan software included the “legal fees” entry for a good reason and I did not want to leave it blank.

Fast forward to today. Going to law school, running my own startup company, and now representing dozens of other startup companies hasn’t led me to the exactly-how-much-to-pay-your-startup-lawyer magic number. Instead, I’ve learned to spot the issues that suggest a startup company should be spending more rather than less on legal fees:

(1) Number of Founders: If your startup is going to have more than one founder, this would indicate you’ll need to add to your legal fees total. Establishing and documenting the co-founder relationship is one of the most important aspects of a having a successful startup company. I wrote a previous blog article regarding startup co-founders.

(2) Raising Capital: If you plan to raise capital from any third party, whether from your mother or Oak Investment Partners, your must increase your legal fees. No exceptions.

(3) Public Company - No, I don’t mean a “publicly-traded” company. Rather, the more your startup will have a public presence, the more you will need to spend protecting your startup company from infringers (such as trademarks, etc.) and other 3rd parties.

Guy Kawasaki provides us with a real-world example of how much startup legal fees may run. Guy paid $4,824.13 in legal fees when he started Truemors. And his legal fees included the following:

-Trademarking Truemors
-Drafting a Terms of Use
-Discussion of copyright, liability, infringement, IP, and insurance issues
-Organizational resolutions and bylaws
-Stock purchase agreements

Guy’s post also has some wise advice about how much to spend on startup legal fees:

You could do less legal work and do it cheaper, but if you ever want to raise venture capital much less go public or get acquired for more than scrap value, this is not the place to save a few thousand bucks.

While Guy paid $4,824.13, I do not recommend using his number as a benchmark for your legal fees. There are too many variables to consider which are both internal and external to your startup company. Thus, I am hesitant to even provide a range of estimated startup fees. But if you consider the three issues (number of co-founders, raising capital, and public company), you will know whether paying your startup lawyer a larger amount is warranted.

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